SusanG at Daily Kos notes this and quotes from Bloomsberg:
Basically he was mentally ill. It does not matter what pushed him over the edge, he was ready to fall. Religion had nothing to do with it.Virginia Shooter Compared Himself to Christ in Video
By Nick Allen
April 19 (Bloomberg) -- The Virginia Tech university student who killed 32 people in modern America's worst mass shooting compared his own impending death to the crucifixion of Jesus Christ.
"I die like Jesus Christ, to inspire generations of the weak and defenseless people," Cho Seung Hui, 23, said during a rambling video message that he mailed to NBC News after killing his first two victims.
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When did Jesus say to shoot thine enemies?
Right after he said: Shock and Awe Thy Neighbors To Death.
Memorandom on Virginia Tech Massacre No.3: David Kim, the Reverend Who Has Three Faces
http://exodus.exblog.jp/5582870/
I'm running after the Virginia Tech Massacre with an assumption that it might be part of some clandestine operation. Now I'm sure that I'm approaching the truth. It is well known that the sister of Cho Seung Hui the killer was a member of Manna Christian Fellowship in her Princeton University days, and her mentor Rev. David Kim is working for the public relations of the incident to advocate on the behalf of the perpetrator's family [1]. The reverend is affirmatively a Korean but who he is? Here are some facts.
(1) David S. C. Kim: According to wiki [2], David S. C. Kim was the first president of UTS (the Unification Theological Seminary), which serves the Unification Church [9] through graduate education in theology and related subjects, as well as by sponsoring ecumenical conferences. His term of office was 1975-1994. According to an inner article [3], in 1979 he was appointed to the head of "elders" of the first Summer Seminar on Unification Theology but afterwards replaced with Rev. C. H. Kwak by Moon.
(2) David Kwangshin Kim: According to wiki [4], David Kwangshin Kim was born in South Korea, graduated from Seoul National University, and became a businessman in US. He allegedly met Jesus Christ at the age of 42, abandoned his business and entered Talbot School of Theology. He founded the Grace Korean Church in 1982 with three families. It spread their missions through Grace Ministries International, and now churches have been planted all over the world, as 2,000 in Russia, 600 in Africa, 3,000 in China, 1,000 in Vietnam and many more in South America. As to Korea missions came in rather late as 2004, when Seoul Grace Church was established. Grace Korean Church is known by its aggressive mission and the systematic brainwash program called Basket Operation. Seoul Grace Church's policy does not require any membership of the church to the students, and all of the students are encouraged to work as members of other churches.
(3) David H. Kim: According to a report in Princeton University's daily newspaper, the Daily Princetonian [1], David H. Kim is the director of Manna Christian Fellowship at Princeton University. The society began over 10 years ago, and has historically heavily Asian-American membership. Its members also get together for ad hoc socializing, including movies, bowling, ice-skating and eating [5]. The fellowship was founded by Rev. Wellington Boone, who has since formed The Wellington Boone Ministries and has been deeply involved in the radical right-wing evangelical movement. Boone is also a member of the Promise Keepers movement, a phallic worship cult, promoting the total submission of women to their husband. [6][7]
Here we have three religious facilities, CTS (Unification Theological Seminary), GKC (Grace Korean Church) and Manna (Manna Christian Fellowship at Princeton University), which share the same name "Rev. David Kim" for their heads. By coincidence? Uncertain. Now Let's examine the time-line of the activities of these reverends. Apparently the Manna activity at Princeton University begins shortly after the end of the term at UTS. It is not unreasonable to suppose that Kim's presidency of UTS became nominal to some extent since 1979 when he dropped from the elders head. If this hypothesis is true, then all the three activities line in a raw.
1975...1979..1982........1994.............2007...
--|------|------|---------------|----------------|--
..|<==UTS===|-------------->|.|<===Manna==>....
................|<====GKC=====|------>
Through '70 and '80 Unification Church [9] awfully pervaded in Japan, and left behind 6500 missing persons allegedly abducted by the cult. The estimated total damage is over 1 trillion yen ($8.4 billion). In the period an enormous amount of money was smuggled out of Japan to US. Moon and his followers penetrated the US society pouring the money generously into their ecumenical movement like UTS, religious right wings like Promise Keepers [6], and even Afro-American religious leaders like Wellington Boone. The total money spent in these arena is estimated over $3 billion. In the middle of '80, Moon was imprisoned in US for tax evasion. The period of the expansion of Grace Korean Church is exactly over wrapping. As mentioned above the income of the GKC is little from the inside membership dues. Then where did such power money come from to extend its branches all over the world. The presumable answer is just one, i.e. came from Moon.
Unification Theological Seminary is boldly an affiliate of Unification Church. Manna Christian Fellowship links to Promise Keepers, an ultra-right militant organization via the Afro-American mentor Wellington Boone backed up by Moon. [6] Grace Korean Church ostensibly seems to be a genuine Christian church but in a considerable certainty it is a disguised front of Unification Church expanded through the brainwash tactics and power of money inherited from Unification Church. In the view of development flow, it seems like shifting toward more moderate form as CTS (front of Unification Church) --> GKC (kind of Christian church) --> Manna (Christian social activity) but the nature is unaltered as the link between Manna and Promise Keepers.
At present I have no foundation to identify those three persons one and the same, but isn't it natural to appreciate that a single man named "David Kim" has relocated in each time using an alias along with the flow of the time? Yes, a suit of photos is enough. However as they say that even the president had the plastic surgery in the country [8], the facial appearance of the man might have been altered together with his aliases.
[Update] According to the survey article by the Religious Movements in Virginia University [9], David Kim had already come to Eugene, Oregon, as early as in 1959 for the first time, where Young Oon Kim, who was the first missionary of the US, had established a bridgehead of Unification Church. Miss Kim had been a spiritualist and converted in very early stage of the church as 1954, when the church, the Holy Spirit Association for the Unification of World Christianity (HSA-UWC), formally founded. Miss Kim and her group translated their sacred text, the Divine Principle, into English.
[1]Cho '04 calls campus friend (DAILLYPRINCETONIAN.COM, 2007-04-19)
[2]Unification Theological Seminary (WikipediA, 2007-02-19)
[3]Lost World Of Unification Studies (True Parents Organization, 1999-01-30)
[4]Seoul Grace Church (WikipediA, 2007-04-24)
[5]Manna Christian Fellowship Highlights (princeton.edu, manna)
[6]News - Cho ties to Manna Christian Fellowship (The Conspiracy Theory Blogger, 2007-04-21)
[7]'Promise Keepers' Mind Control Techniques (Educate-Yourself, Mind Control)
[8]S. Korea Sees Boom in Male Plastic Surgery (SFGate.com, 2006-04-16)
[9]The Unification Church (Religious Movements, 2001-09-05)
babalabo, that is truly creepy and awful, but what is your point? That the Virginia Tech gunman was a Moonie?
If he was a Moonie and Rev. Moon thought it was a good idea for one of his followers to go on a rampage, the next question is why? To cause the collapse of American society and bring the second coming as Moon has indicated he desires?
Didn't happen. It will take a lot more than one lone gunman to destroy this culture. We get one of these massacres every few years or so, stagger about for a bit, and then continue on.
Is Rev. Moon sending nukes next?
> babalabo, that is truly creepy and awful, but what is your point?
Falling into a depth of fantasy/illusion is not what I want, but what they (War Beneficiaries) wanted. That is, to promote mutual distrust and bring chaos in a region is their accustomed tactics. Currently we have two origins of all-out war, Palestine (broadly Middle East) and Korean Peninsula. As you may notice both are prepared/embedded for the next and presumably final world war just after the WWII. Europe had held their own flash point, but extincted by themselves, i.e., Berlin Wall and established EU. I don't know if the WWIII is inevitable, but I think that it is our responsible not let the war come into Far East. North Korea carried out a nuclear test October in the last year and now 6 Party-Talks is going on. We fear that North Korea admitted to be a nuclear power like Pakistan, and the situation is effectively proceeding towards the direction. This simply results revision of our Peace-Constitution and nuclearisation, while I think that North Korea and US war-mongers are actually collaborating for this purpose. This is my point. Incidentally Unification Church holds Armageddon vision in their minds, as well as Christian fundamentalists.
> That the Virginia Tech gunman was a Moonie?
I don't know. It may be or may not. But it is very probable that Cho had been mind-controlled even in rather early time. It is told that he was abnormally wordless, that might be a symptom of a failure of mind-control. It is a simple/evidential fact that Unification Church was a front of KCIA, which CIA fostered. Moon strongly ties with Kim John Ill mentally and financially. Of course these organizations provide expertize of brainwashing and mind-control. At the least Cho must have been financed by someone for his spending, purchase of weapons, renting a car over a month, hotel fees, etc etc, in a few months before the event as his emigrant poor family did not afford that.
> If he was a Moonie and Rev. Moon thought it was a good idea for one of his followers to go on a rampage, the next question is why?
As above. Do you remember Aum Supreme Truth incident in 1995? The cult released sarin on subway trains, killed 7 and injured 144. It is verified that the cult had a tie with Unification Church and traded with North Korea. Aum shared the Armageddon vision with Unification Church. I don't claim that Cho was a Moonie, maybe he was just a victim. In Cho's case personal motivation cannot be neglected, but insufficient. You may know that the sister of Cho is an employee of an US intelligence agency, this is too serious to miss.
> To cause the collapse of American society and bring the second coming as Moon has indicated he desires?
I'm not Moon, so I cannot answer you what exactly his desire is, but I suppose that he is behaving himself as an Anti-Christ described in Bible consciously or unconsciously. BTW the church formally declared that Moon is the prophesied Messiah in 1992. The coronation of Rev. Sun Myung Moon as Emperor-Messsiah took place in Washington's Dirksen Senate Building on March 23, 2004. Can you imagine how much money poured into your politicians?
> Didn't happen. It will take a lot more than one lone gunman to destroy this culture.
Yes, of course. They are doing much by spending your money (US tax).
http://blog.au.org/2004/10/05/harvest_moon160/
http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?itemid=22259
http://www.radicalleft.net/blog/_archives/2006/12/23/2587012.html
> We get one of these massacres every few years or so, stagger about for a bit, and then continue on.
Someone said that 33 in US is a massacre, but 100 in Iraq is a statistic.
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/opinion_columnists/article/0,2777,DRMN_23972_5487820,00.html
> Is Rev. Moon sending nukes next?
On 17th April, the next day of the VT massacre, Nagasaki Mayer was shot and dead by a member of a criminal syndicate in our country. Our security authority is investigating the background of the incident. Some findings are demonstrated but no direct evidence of involvement of Unification Church so far. It is suggested that the criminal may be a Korean. As you know Nagasaki is our holy place commemorating the disaster of the atomic bomb, i.e., a place for aspiring lasting peace. I cannot help reading a very malicious message here.
Correction: sorry!
On the morning of 20th March 1995, Aum members released sarin in a co-ordinated attack on five trains in the Tokyo subway system, killing 12 commuters, seriously harming 54 and affecting 980 more.
Ok. Now you've totally freaked me out. Look at how loads of money enables deranged self-proclaimed messianic maniacal leaders to do really awful things.
I will pay more attention to the activities of Rev. Moon and his minions from now on.
On 17th April, the next day of the VT massacre, a large scale of university convocation was held with attendances of the US president and the first lady. It is very curious that there had been no speeches mentioning the name Jesus Christ. Besides no appearance of Rev. David Kim... http://worldnetdaily.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55252
I think I need to make a tin foil hat for this....
And a gas mask, too :-). BTW I posted my comments here to my blog below quoting you. Thanks, but if you care tell me so. http://exodus.exblog.jp/5600027/
Post away, no problem. I've been aware of the Moonies for decades, but never thought they were anything more than just a weird cult like any other.
Your research is frightening, a little confusing, but it will make me keep alert about the followers of Rev. Moon and follow his antics in the press.
Thanks.
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