What was that about listening to commanders on the ground?

Another retired general bluntly tells the truth:

The commander who led the Iraq war for more than a year after Baghdad's fall says the best outcome America can hope for now is to "stave off defeat."

Calling the situation there bleak, retired Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez also said America has been in the grips of a leadership crisis since 9-11, and that only a sweeping re-examination of Iraq and a renewed, long-term commitment there that includes a large U.S. troop presence will turn the tide of the conflict.

"I think if we do the right things politically and economically with the right Iraqi leadership we could still salvage at least a stalemate, if you will — not a stalemate but at least stave off defeat," Sanchez told the San Antonio Express-News. "It's also kind of important for us to answer the question, 'What is victory?', and at this point I'm not sure America really knows what victory is."

Sanchez, in his first interview since his career ended last year, is the highest-ranking former military leader yet to suggest the Bush administration fell short in Iraq. Retired Army Maj. Gen. John Batiste, who led the 1st Infantry Division in Iraq, appeared in a TV spot accusing the president of pursuing "a failed strategy that is breaking our great Army."

I guess if you're retired, you're no longer on the ground so you don't count. And commanders on the ground can't talk to the media without putting their careers, their pension, and their heads on the line...