Explain the word succeed, Mr. Bush.

Bush: "We tend to want there to be instant success in the world, and the task in Iraq is going to take awhile . . .We'll succeed unless we quit."

Remember what happened in Vietnam, Mr. Bush? The Vietnam war you so drunkenly avoided?

Larry Johnson at TPM Cafe discusses:
"And what did we achieve in the end? The United States fled the South Vietnamese capital, Saigon, to escape the invading North Vietnamese Army. North Vietnam "freed" the South from yankee imperialists and set about "reeducating" the South Vietnamese. News flash George. WE LOST!

So, what lesson are we to draw from all of this? Are you arguing that if we had stuck it out in Vietnam and spilled the blood of another 50,000 Americans and one million Vietnamese that things would be better today in Vietnam? Mr. President, that is bullshit.

The lesson of Vietnam for our policy in Iraq is that we should not waste the blood or limb of one more American soldier without a clear vision and plan of what we are trying to achieve. Most of the violence we face today is from indigenous Iraqis who see us as occupiers. The insurgents may not agree among themselves what the future of Iraq should be politically, but they are united in expelling us from the country."

Jo Fish at the Democratic Veteran reminds us of this joke:
"Q: How is Vietnam different from Iraq?

"A: Bush had a plan for getting out of Vietnam."