tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32487323.post6914081151783603339..comments2023-12-25T03:15:00.044-08:00Comments on Rants From The Rookery: Ethanol is a scamellroonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11335409429673647381noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32487323.post-19103191349398295872007-08-03T07:30:00.000-07:002007-08-03T07:30:00.000-07:00Rats. The things I learn....Rats. The things I learn....ellroonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11335409429673647381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32487323.post-72244789221481923192007-08-02T20:10:00.000-07:002007-08-02T20:10:00.000-07:00Hemp paper and clothes exist, Ellroon. They're oft...Hemp paper and clothes exist, Ellroon. They're often of excellent quality and do not bother the dogs because hemp products contain no THC.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32487323.post-77893350865274184892007-08-02T19:02:00.000-07:002007-08-02T19:02:00.000-07:00Hemp paper? Hemp clothes? The poor doggies at th...Hemp paper? Hemp clothes? The poor doggies at the airports would go bonkers....ellroonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11335409429673647381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32487323.post-12777385626025050042007-08-02T18:37:00.000-07:002007-08-02T18:37:00.000-07:00i'm pretty much in agreement with whig on the many...i'm pretty much in agreement with whig on the many, many values of hemp, including its possible use as fuel. personally i prefer eating the oil-rich seeds and using hemp-oil soap over turning the oil into biodiesel. <BR/><BR/>converting the cellulose in the rest of the plant [stems, leaves] to ethanol would suit me though. then again, that cellulose is exceedingly valuable as paper and textiles, so maybe not even that would make me happy.hipparchiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16601000402820151839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32487323.post-51412131235889846352007-08-02T11:39:00.000-07:002007-08-02T11:39:00.000-07:00Jack Herer it is! You can be Deputy Minister then...Jack Herer it is! You can be Deputy Minister then...ellroonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11335409429673647381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32487323.post-212589324999870912007-08-02T11:08:00.000-07:002007-08-02T11:08:00.000-07:00I depose and nominate Jack Herer.I depose and nominate <A HREF="http://www.jackherer.com/hemporium.html" REL="nofollow">Jack Herer</A>.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32487323.post-13320472185743455892007-08-02T06:38:00.000-07:002007-08-02T06:38:00.000-07:00Lol, whig. Sorry. I am teasing. Because of you,...Lol, whig. Sorry. I am teasing. Because of you, I now have an appreciation for the plant I never had before. (I don't smoke and I don't drink, but if I were dictator, I'd make you Minister of All Hempiness. Just think of all the good we could do!)ellroonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11335409429673647381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32487323.post-65232404250183464562007-08-02T01:35:00.000-07:002007-08-02T01:35:00.000-07:00I wouldn't say I know ALL about hemp. It seems to ...I wouldn't say I know ALL about hemp. It seems to be a rather underutilized crop for all the good it may provide, and frankly doing without it is crippling ourselves. That doesn't mean it's the solution to every problem, but I view it as part of the solution.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32487323.post-16072204773737288802007-08-01T21:18:00.000-07:002007-08-01T21:18:00.000-07:00Ooo! A person with hands on experience with corn,...Ooo! A person with hands on experience with corn, soybeans and petroleum! I will read your blog with interest!<BR/><BR/>Maybe you could talk to whig about hemp. He knows ALL about it. His blog is Cannablog, btw.ellroonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11335409429673647381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32487323.post-45764982896978673062007-08-01T21:00:00.000-07:002007-08-01T21:00:00.000-07:00now look what you've started!i've got a blog and i...now look what you've started!<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://hipparchia-moonlighting.blogspot.com/2007/08/first-disclaimer-or-three.html" REL="nofollow">i've got a blog and i can't shut up!</A> <BR/><BR/>when i first started blogging, i was going to get into biofuels, but then decided not to. but now you have unleashed my inner biofueler. it's ok, i needed a break from healthcare anyway.hipparchiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16601000402820151839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32487323.post-39835012796185520302007-08-01T13:37:00.000-07:002007-08-01T13:37:00.000-07:00Impeach Big oil, then.Impeach Big oil, then.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32487323.post-30674761272440950752007-08-01T08:53:00.000-07:002007-08-01T08:53:00.000-07:00Algae and hemp... nobody will touch it because it'...Algae and hemp... nobody will touch it because it's too easy to grow. Big Oil would disappear and you know they will not go easily.ellroonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11335409429673647381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32487323.post-21199719186194274532007-08-01T00:41:00.000-07:002007-08-01T00:41:00.000-07:00I understand algae may be even more efficient at p...I understand algae may be even more efficient at producing oil.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32487323.post-67084480264223346932007-07-31T23:52:00.000-07:002007-07-31T23:52:00.000-07:00Guess I'll keep asking until someone tells me, wha...Guess I'll keep asking until someone tells me, what's wrong with hemp oil?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32487323.post-9786175445250957432007-07-31T19:13:00.000-07:002007-07-31T19:13:00.000-07:00Heavens, never apologize for rants, that's clearly...Heavens, never apologize for rants, that's clearly why I'm here! I appreciate your viewpoint.<BR/><BR/>My chemistry teacher husband explained ethanol very simply to me as an extremely inefficient fuel.<BR/><BR/>Quoting from this post http://rantsfromtherookery.blogspot.com/2007/07/any-chemist-could-have-told-you-flat.html , I said: Any chemist could have told you flat out that ethanol is a ridiculous energy source. It is too small a hydrocarbon to produce much heat. The energy expended to till, fertilize, grow, harvest, take to the factory, change into ethanol, drive the ethanol to the gas refineries and then to the distributors will always be more than what we gain from using ethanol. They've even opened a coal-run plant to make ethanol. It's letting the farmers get some quick cash, but that's about it....<BR/><BR/>I'll be quick to point out that I am NOT against biofuels or alternative energy sources, and truly do expect we will have healthy sources of energy in a few decades. But ethanol itself is NOT efficient as an energy source. As an additive when there is a bumper crop, yes. <BR/><BR/>At the end of my post I cite Phila's post about Iowans having problems with ethanol crops ruining the water aquafiers.ellroonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11335409429673647381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32487323.post-62543406135642844132007-07-31T16:14:00.000-07:002007-07-31T16:14:00.000-07:00meh.there are probably crops that yield more ehtna...meh.<BR/><BR/>there are probably crops that yield more ehtnaol per acre than does corn, but really, we've been growing more corn than we need for ages now. not only that, but much of the corn we're already growing is <I>not the same kind of corn that humans actually eat</I> [not directly anyway].<BR/><BR/>i forget what the ratio is, and i'm too lazy to go look for the links, but something like 60% of the corn we grow goes to feed cattle -- cattle that we eat, wear, and use milk from.<BR/><BR/>another link i can't lay my fingers on right at the moment, but americans eat something like twice [more] the amount of meat per person than we were eating at the dawn of modern-day mechanized agriculture. we really wouldn't die if we cut back on our meat and milk consumption and fed some of that corn to our cars instead of our bellies.<BR/><BR/>then there's all that high-fructose corn syrup we take in. cokes, granola bars, cereals, you name it. if we stopped eating all that crap and fed <I>that</I> corn to our cars, we still wouldn't die from starvation.<BR/><BR/>as for the carcinogens, gasoline and diesel both have [and produce when burned] carcinogens and other nasty chemicals that are bad for humans and bad for the environment. ethanol just produces some different ones, that's all.<BR/><BR/>it's true that ethanol is more corrosive to both pipelines and your car's engine than is gasoline, but [1] our cars have been using gasoline/ethanol blends for ages now, so we've developed corrosion-controlling chemicals to protect our enignes, and [2] various crudes can have significant amounts of corrosive chemicals in them, so it's not like all our pipelines were shiny clean and pristine before we dreamed up ethanol. corrosion engineering is a healthy portion of the pipeline business.<BR/><BR/>ethanol and biodiesel both aren't going to save us from ourselves, but incorporating their judicious use into our otherwise insatiable appetite for cheap energy [as well as cutting back on our consumption of both food and energy] is way more ethical, in my not at all humble opinion, than invading other countries to take <I>their</I> crude oil.<BR/><BR/>[apologies for the lengthy rant]hipparchiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16601000402820151839noreply@blogger.com